A Conversation With Matt Muller From Tines
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➡ Build, run, and monitor workflows with Tines at: tines.com In this episode, I speak with Matt Muller, Field CSCO at Tines, about how automation and AI are transforming security operations at scale. We talk about: • Tines' Mission to Eliminate Manual Security Work Through Automation How Tines helps security teams streamline incident response and workflow automation without needing to write code, saving time and reducing burnout. • Applying AI to Security Operations and Analyst Workflows How AI is used in phishing analysis, threat intel reporting, and data transformation—integrated safely into workflows using tools like Workbench with private LLMs. • Tines Workbench and the Future of Agentic AI How Workbench combines chat with deterministic automation to help analysts take action securely, and how Tines is exploring agentic AI to take automation even further. Chapters: 00:00 - How Tines Automates Security to Solve SOC Burnout07:19 - The AI Arms Race: How Attackers and Defenders Are Evolving09:08 - Why Security Still Comes Down to Workflow, Logging, and Action13:41 - How CISOs Are Balancing AI Adoption and Enterprise Risk17:36 - Using AI in Tines to Transform and Automate Security Workflows20:40 - How AI Detects Business Email Compromise Better Than Rules25:26 - From Security to Data Pipelines: Tines as Workflow Orchestration28:59 - Inside Workbench: Secure AI-Powered Chat for Analysts36:00 - Automating Phishing Investigations with Trusted Tool Integrations39:19 - Where to Learn More and Try Tines for FreeBecome a Member: https://danielmiessler.com/upgradeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.