Dave Frame: Climate Change professor on calls for closer monitoring of govt spending on the environment

Simon Upton is the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, and he wants the Government to now clearly monitor the money it is spending on the environment and what that actually achieves. He even stated the money they're throwing at the environment is 'short termism', and is lacking in transparency. Dave Frame is a professor of Climate Change with Victoria University of Wellington and he joined Mike Hosking.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.