Chris Cahill: Police Association President says new figures on gang numbers line up with people's experiences

The Police Association insists new figures on gang numbers line up with people's experiences. Newstalk ZB can reveal the national gang list has more than 8,300 people on it, who are patched or prospects. Police Minister Chris Hipkins says the gang list is not a reliable count of membership. But Police Association President Chris Cahill told Mike Hosking it's a sign of what most people are seeing, in most parts of the country. He says in Auckland, rural and provincial New Zealand are seeing more gang patches out there. LISTEN ABOVE  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.