625: Loving Our Christian Nationalist Neighbors with Caleb Campbell

It’s one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell’s new book, “Disarming Leviathan,” argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shining “city upon a hill.” Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern politicians. Plus, what’s behind all of the hot A.I. images of Jesus?   Holy Post Plus Discussion of Project 2025 https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-news-2025-107830107   0:00 - Intro   1:18 - Show Starts   3:18 - Theme Song   3:40 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order   4:44  - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at www.faithfulcounseling.com/HOLYPOST   5:52 - Responding to Feedback on Debate Coverage   12:26 - Shining City on a Hill   19:42 - Guiding People Away from Idolatry   30:36 - Perfect Love Casts Out Fear   34:41 - Hot A.I. Jesus   49:30 - Sponsor - Go to https://www.songfinch.com/HOLYPOST and start your song – after you purchase, you’ll be prompted to add Spotify Streaming for your original song for FREE - a $50 value!    50:49 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - www.wheaton.edu/holypost   51:49 - Interview   53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism?   1:15:15 - Practical Advice   1:23:53 - What About Flipping Tables?   1:33:14 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Is America a City on a Hill or a Nation on the Precipice? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/opinion/american-exceptionalism-reagan-biden-trump.html   Hot AI Jesus is Huge on Facebook https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/06/hot-jesus-ai/678814/   Other resources:   Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Caleb Campbell: https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.