193: A course in miracles experiment with Pam Grout

I’m honored to have Pam Grout on the show today! Pam is an explorer on the frontiers of magic and enchantment. She has served as an extra in a zombie movie; composed a country-and-western song; created a TV series; and communed with Maasai warriors, Turkish sultans, and Inti the Ecuadorian Sun God. She writes books and articles for such places as CNN Travel, Men’s Journal, The Huffington Post, and People magazine. She is the #1 New York Times best-selling author of Thank & Grow Rich, E-Squared, and E-Cubed. Transcript: Welcome to The Art of Living big podcast. My name is Betsy Pake, and I’m an author, speaker and a master mindset coach focused on helping you understand and design your life with the power of your subconscious. This podcast is designed to help you think differently about what could be possible for your life. Now, let’s go live big. Hello fellow adventurers, welcome to The Art of Living big. Today’s show, I have a really incredible guest. I’m so excited that Pam grout is here to talk to us today. If you don’t know, Pam, I’m about to rock your world. But I’m guessing that most of you have heard of her or even read one of her books called e squared. I’ve talked about her before on the show. She’s been on episode 28. Early on in the show, she was an earlier guest. I just love love so many things about Pam. So I’m excited to share this interview with you today. I haven’t done an interview in quite a while. So this was really a treat for me. So before we move on to that, I want to just make sure that you know that you’re invited to our Facebook group. It’s called The Art of Living big community. And you can actually just type in your browser, www The Art of Living big.com. And it will bring you right to it. You know, Pam and I did not talk about this on the interview. But she actually wrote a book called Living big. So so many pieces of alignment there. So the last little thing I just want to remind you that if you are stuck or struggling or you want to learn a new way to shift your subconscious, I do have a free training on my website. And you can just go to Betsy Pake calm. There’s lots of other freebies on there, too. But you can get that free class. It’s right on the front page, and you will see it when you log in. So now without further ado, let’s go to today’s show. All right, everyone. Hello, I am here with the beautiful, amazing Pam grout. Hey, Pam. Hey, Betsy, so glad to be with you today. I am happy to have you here today. So for those that are listening, they may not know you were on the show several years ago, and I had just started doing the show. And I think you were like Episode 28 if anybody wants to go into the Wayback Machine and check it out. But it’s so interesting, because at that time I you were like on my job like, oh, if I could talk to anybody, who would it be? And I was like Pam grout. And, um, I don’t remember now because it was so long ago, but there was something about on your website or something that was sunflower. I don’t know if maybe your email had a sunflower name. And I don’t remember what it was. But I said,