"Payne has got to want it!" Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh on Sportsday

SEN League - A podcast by SEN - Wednesdays

Scott Sattler and Mat Rogers are joined by former Wallaby and current Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh who emphasises the importance of pathways in Rugby and how the national side is feeling ahead of the World Cup plus what he thinks of Payne Haas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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