Debating Infinite Growth on a Finite Planet with John Fullerton & Manuel Gonzalez

Is exponential growth possible on a finite planet? How might we balance growth and profit with maximum social and ecological benefit? This is a huge topic that we’re just beginning to scratch the surface of. In today’s bonus finance episode, we share two differing viewpoints on growth from regenerative economics pioneer John Fullerton and venture capitalist Manuel Gonzalez.  We also include a discussion with Sara Eckhouse, executive director of Foodshot Global, about using Integrated Capital investment models that combine funding from multiple types of financial instruments to fund solutions that address social and environmental issues. Topics covered in this episode include: The failures of the current financial system and the business models within itThe potential benefits of restructuring the ownership of large multinational food companiesWhether we need to build a new system from the ground up with alternative principles and priorities to cope with our current crisesWhat those principles might beThe potential negative impacts of a model that doesn’t center growthHow Integrated Capital works and is able to develop novel ideas that could be missed by other financing structures John Fullerton is the founder and president of Capital Institute. He is also an active impact investor and co-founder and director of holistic ranch management company Grasslands, LLC; a director of New Day Farms, Savory Institute, and the New Economy Coalition. Manuel Gonzalez is General Partner at AgFunder, one of the world’s most active foodtech and agtech VC investors. Manuel was formerly the global head of innovation for Rabobank, the world’s leading food and agriculture bank, and founder of its two startup engagement platforms: FoodBytes! and Terra. Sara Eckhouse is Executive Director at FoodShot Global, whose mission is to empower bold ideas and innovative companies to accelerate the transformation to a healthy, sustainable, and equitable food system. Show notes: Herman Daly Interview Paul Polman Capital Institute AgFunder FoodShot Global - Precision Protein Challenge Donella Meadows: Limits to Growth Neo-Confucianism Karl Popper Albert Michelson S2G Ventures and ocean data David Deutsch: The beginning of Infinity. Timothy Snyder *Giveaway Details* We’ve teamed up with our partners at New Hope Network to offer ALL of our listeners an exclusive 25% off discount for an Expo West 2023 badge and ONE lucky listener will have the opportunity to win a free booth at Expo West 2024 ($8k value). To enter, do the following by February 17th: Head to New Food Order’s show page on Apple PodcastsMake sure you are subscribedLeave us a review - good or bad - but hopefully good! Scroll to the bottom of the page to do so.Screenshot the review and email it to Meg at [email protected] - if you’re interested in the 25% discount to this year’s Expo, please call it out in the email.  Lastly, head to newfoodorder.org - select newsletter - and register to receive our newsletters. In addition to New Food Order content, AgFunder and Food+Tech Connect publish the leading newsletters for the food and agtech community.Those who follow New Hope Network, Food + Tech Connect and AgFunder on Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn will receive double entry. Follow us on Linkedin: @agfunder & @foodtechconnect This series is sponsored by: New Hope Network New Hope Network is a media, events and business intelligence company, covering natural products trends, industry insights and marketplace data that educate the industry about key issues, like regenerative agriculture, sustainability, responsible sourcing and more. Visit newhope.com. FoodShot Global FoodShot leverages resources from investors around the world to provide non-dilutive, equity, and post-investment capacities to innovators. Find out more at foodshot.org.