Kevin Rudd: How to Avert a Conflict Between China and the US

The Foreign Desk - A podcast by Monocle

In this special episode, Andrew Mueller sits down with the former prime minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, to discuss the volatile relationship between superpowers China and the United States, the possibility of a catastrophic war between them – and how to avert such a conflict – and what he learned during his lengthy meetings with Xi Jinping. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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