86: Jony Ive’s Rejected Toilet

Jake and Jonathan - A podcast by Jake Knapp & Jonathan Courtney

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Strap in for the longest intro ever---you're gonna love it! Jake & Jonathan eventually discuss Jony Ive's departure from Apple, but before that, they talk about being late, picking brains, career ladders, and other non-random stuff! Show notes: https://productbreakfastclub.simplecast.com

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