73: Steve Jobs VS Steve Ballmer (not clickbait)

Jake’s not here this week. So Jonathan is joined by Amr from AJ&Smart to talk about a little more about Apple (since they had their media event a couple weeks back); compare Apple’s leadership with Microsoft’s; and how to approach working on a “boring” product. Here’s a peek at the topics discussed in this episode: - Innovators vs executors - Has Apple become boring?  - Who’s running product at Apple? - How Steve Ballmer ran Microsoft - How success can set you up to be disrupted  - Microsoft is interesting now..?! - Companies should focus on doing *boring* well - How do you pitch a boring product? - Innovation is overrated  - The importance of framing in product design