What if we changed the way we thought about prison?
I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin - A podcast by True Crime Australia - Mondays

In part two of Liz Sears' chat with Gary, the pair discuss her work in prison and how programs like the prison cafe, which gives prisoners purpose and a sense of worth are improving outcomes and why creating a sense of community in jails can benefit the greater community in the long run. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.