E146: Helene Lawler - "How to Escape Foundationland"
Fenzi Dog Sports Podcast - A podcast by Melissa Breau - Fridays
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Description: Helene has led a number of discussions lately around the idea of foundationland... this place many trainers get stuck in when training their dogs - so I invited her on to talk about the concept and what to do to escape if you find yourself stuck there.