Interview | Waking Up to Our Shadow with Beatrice Chestnut

In this week’s episode, we have the privilege of talking with the one and only Beatrice Chestnut. Beatrice joined us to talk about her new book with Uranio Paes, The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up. But, the conversation doesn’t stop there. We get to know Beatrice beyond her enneagram teaching and writing, and the result was a fun and meaningful conversation.  6:10 - Beatrice’s thoughts on the enneagram and our stories 7:40 - Getting to know Beatrice [hobbies, interests, TV shows]  14:10 - The inspiration behind her new book 17:45 - Her experience co writing with Uranio Paes 19:30 - How her perspectives shifted since she wrote her earlier books 21:00 - How to engage the book 22:10 - “Falling asleep” and “waking up” 25:15 - How do we know we’re awake? 28:20 - The path before each type 33:00 - How Beatrice approaching coaching with the enneagram 38:00 - The Enneagram and Dante’s Divine Comedy as a map of process 40:00 - The dangers of over-pathologizing Type 4s 43:00 - Beatrice’s approach to the subtypes 53:00 - The shadows of the subtypes 59:05 - Beatrice talks about the shadows of our subtypes [Abram: SX9 // Creek: SP4 // Drew: SP3] 1:11:35 - How to follow Beatrice’s work  Follow Beatrice: cpenneagram.com // beatricechestnut.com  The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram