498. Nancy Neithercut

In the spring of 2011, I was cleaning a stove and quite suddenly the knob I was holding became the rag became my hand became the space became the stove as all lines between things between moments and between myself and the world dissolved. It was like the scales had fallen off my eyes! I had heard of no self but had never heard there were no things! There was an intense psychological and physical relaxation, and I was amazed that my body didn't crumble to the floor! It was obvious that there was no one doing life, and that life wasn't happening to a me. It was the end of a lifetime propelled by hope and fear and need of a never arising next. It was as if time died. It was as if I had died, yet it was obvious that I had never existed, yet here I was! This knowing feeling of seamlessness has not left for almost eight years.  It is always obvious... it kisses me awake in the morning and holds me as I drift off to sleep.... life is overwhelmingly beautiful and wondrous always, like edgeless liquid love.... no matter what it looks or feels like. The longing to sing of this, knowing that it cannot be kissed with words paints my reflection with sky in sky.... I am not a teacher or guru, simply a lover of love. Nancy's posts and poems (blog) YouTube Channel Books: To Kiss What Cannot Be Kissed...: Love songs from the canyon Liquid Eyes This Is It, Coyote Your Infinite Intimate Embrace: you have never left Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded April 13, 2019. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:05:06 - A Journey of Seeking and Glimpses 00:10:01 - The Search for the Elusive Goal 00:14:32 - The Terrifying Experience of Losing Beliefs 00:18:56 - The Burning of Personal Armageddon 00:23:35 - The Nature of Belief and Unknowing 00:28:42 - The Astonishing Nature of the Known World 00:33:30 - The Shift in Perception 00:38:00 - The Illusion of Separation and Thingness 00:42:20 - The Dream of Separation 00:46:47 - The Illusion of Separation in the Physical World 00:51:43 - The Unity of the House 00:57:01 - Life Doing Itself 01:00:45 - The Wholeness of the Universe 01:03:12 - The Shared Dream of Separation 01:06:19 - The Sword of Ignorance 01:09:41 - The Illusion of Self 01:13:24 - The Fear of False Evidence Appearing Real 01:18:10 - The Perception of an Actor 01:20:54 - Starting a Podcast & Creating a Website 01:24:13 - Awareness without perception 01:28:26 - Awareness in Deep Sleep 01:33:15 - Discussion on Paintings and Posters 01:36:23 - The Frustration of Seeking and Inner Transformation 01:40:29 - The Role of Spiritual Practices 01:44:55 - The Intensity of Desire and Love in Spiritual Practice 01:49:29 - The Co-dependency of the Seeker and the Teacher 01:53:23 - Embracing our Humanness 01:56:29 - Embracing the Flow of Thought and Emotion 01:59:53 - A Gentle Conversation 02:02:11 - Conclusion and Farewell