#BHN Susie Ferguson vs Christopher Luxon, Cornel West on politics and the latest from Uvalde

Susie Ferguson obliterates Christopher Luxon in a must hear conversation when Mr Luxon tells the RNZ audience all the things that the health system needs to change that are poor under the Labour government, but when Susie presses him on how to make those changes and how to pay for them, Mr Luxon comes up a little short on depth. Cornel West on Bill Maher and the importance of absolutism when it comes to your vote and how we should never be forced to settle for a 'milk toast' politician and/or policy. We chat about this and also wonder where the line is of standing by your principles and playing politics to attempt to get the end result you are looking for. Shocking new revelations from the Uvalde massacre where we learn today that the police are actively covering up their inadequacies and ineptitude. We now understand that the classroom door where the shooter was was unlocked and the police had all the firearms they needed to breach that room 3 minutes into the seige