Pat Cassels/Eliza Skinner

Baby Geniuses - A podcast by maximumfun.org, Lisa Hanawalt, Emily Heller, Rob Pera

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Hey babies! This week's guest is College Humor writer and Taylor Swift enthusiast Pat Cassels! He tells us all about his love of the Shake It Off singer. Then, pasta expert Kelsey Barnes (aka Eliza Skinner) schools us on where the character of a pasta lies: the shapes. Plus! Child haters! Ghostbusters! And how to rob a bank in the worst way!

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